FS modded xbox

Michelin Man · 12-07-2003, 8:38 AM

v1.1
120 gig Western Digital HD
X2.2 Lite Plus
X-Ecuter 2.X LITE/LITE[+] Flasher/Programmer
Samsung DVD drive
working pinheader already soldered in
1 extra controller

$400 (firm)

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jtothees · 12-07-2003, 4:39 PM

what kind of benefits does this have..? More storage space for saved games?

civic4982 · 12-07-2003, 5:41 PM

it'll be able to read DVD-RWs too if I'm correct.

I dunno what the software does... wanna help us out Ian?

Michelin Man · 12-07-2003, 5:44 PM

You can play copied games, games from any system, drop games in the DVD drive and copy them to the HD.

and you can play DVDs without the DVD kit from MS.

look on this site for more details and info:
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/

jtothees · 12-07-2003, 6:49 PM

You can play any game from any system?

Sounds badass, il pass the word on to some friends, they might be interested.

civic4982 · 12-07-2003, 9:25 PM

woah! any game from any system!?!??! I dind't nkow you could do that... how bad ass...

Michelin Man · 12-08-2003, 3:58 AM

i did some more reading to make sure i what i said was correct about being able to play games from ANY system and here is what i found.

xbox-scene.com

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.p...&f=17&t=55857&

I am by no means an expert on the subject but I know how emulation works. I wanted to write this as a topic that could be pinned for newcomers to read before they start asking for PS2, Gamecube, and DC emulators.

Every system has it's own unique and different hardware. And each system has it's own individual coding methods and SDKs. So obviously you can't just play a PS2 game on the XBox and so on. Because the coding is different and written for a different set of hardware.

What an emulator does is recreates the specific hardware for another system with software. And then that software runs on the hardware of the host system. So just imagine for a second. Two systems that are just about on par with each other as far as speed goes. The only way to get full speed would be to have the true hardware for the system. Software could never hope to emulate a system that is close to the same speed as the host hardware. For a good example, think of hardware rendering vs software rendering...which is faster? The hardware of course.

Another way to think of it is when you put a game in your PS2, the game just runs right off the hardware. If you were trying to emulate it on the XBox, first it would go into the software and have it's code and commands changed to the native language of the XBox, and then that new code would be run. And being that the systems are so closely matched in speed, the emulation would be very, very, very unplayably slow. And the problem with PS2 emulation is there really isn't even a working one for the PC yet.

Now why can older systems be emulated? Because compared to a PS2, their hardware is very simple to manage with an emulator. The XBox can manage the code fast enough to keep the game going at a steady clip. I know this isn't an in depth explanation, but I thought I would put it in laymen's terms.

Basically...here is the gist of what I just said...PS2, Dreamcast, and especially Gamecube emulation is not going to happen on the XBox. It just can't handle it. Granted one could be made, but it would be so slow and ugly it wouldn't even be worth the effort.

Anyways...case closed...after reading this there should be no reason for anyone to ask questions about why PS2 emulation can't be done.

jtothees · 12-08-2003, 4:42 AM

damnit!

civic4982 · 12-09-2003, 8:43 PM

**mantis23** · 12-10-2003, 6:13 AM

Ving, if you're ever in town, I'll show you my xbox, and how it works.

JD22CL · 12-10-2003, 10:00 AM

My box has 30 top name xbox games on it, gotta love modding that thing

12-09-2003, 8:43 PM	#9
civic4982 SHIFT_over.so.I.can.see My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lubbock, TX Age: 27 Posts: 5,467	doh!

12-07-2003, 4:39 PM	#2
jtothees Registered User My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 23 Posts: 828	what kind of benefits does this have..? More storage space for saved games?

12-07-2003, 5:41 PM	#3
civic4982 SHIFT_over.so.I.can.see My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lubbock, TX Age: 27 Posts: 5,467	it'll be able to read DVD-RWs too if I'm correct. I dunno what the software does... wanna help us out Ian?

12-07-2003, 5:44 PM	#4
Michelin Man Registered User My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 227	You can play copied games, games from any system, drop games in the DVD drive and copy them to the HD. and you can play DVDs without the DVD kit from MS. look on this site for more details and info: http://forums.xbox-scene.com/

12-07-2003, 6:49 PM	#5
jtothees Registered User My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 23 Posts: 828	You can play any game from any system? Sounds badass, il pass the word on to some friends, they might be interested.

12-07-2003, 9:25 PM	#6
civic4982 SHIFT_over.so.I.can.see My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Lubbock, TX Age: 27 Posts: 5,467	woah! any game from any system!?!??! I dind't nkow you could do that... how bad ass...

12-08-2003, 3:58 AM	#7
Michelin Man Registered User My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Austin Posts: 227	i did some more reading to make sure i what i said was correct about being able to play games from ANY system and here is what i found. xbox-scene.com http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.p...&f=17&t=55857& I am by no means an expert on the subject but I know how emulation works. I wanted to write this as a topic that could be pinned for newcomers to read before they start asking for PS2, Gamecube, and DC emulators. Every system has it's own unique and different hardware. And each system has it's own individual coding methods and SDKs. So obviously you can't just play a PS2 game on the XBox and so on. Because the coding is different and written for a different set of hardware. What an emulator does is recreates the specific hardware for another system with software. And then that software runs on the hardware of the host system. So just imagine for a second. Two systems that are just about on par with each other as far as speed goes. The only way to get full speed would be to have the true hardware for the system. Software could never hope to emulate a system that is close to the same speed as the host hardware. For a good example, think of hardware rendering vs software rendering...which is faster? The hardware of course. Another way to think of it is when you put a game in your PS2, the game just runs right off the hardware. If you were trying to emulate it on the XBox, first it would go into the software and have it's code and commands changed to the native language of the XBox, and then that new code would be run. And being that the systems are so closely matched in speed, the emulation would be very, very, very unplayably slow. And the problem with PS2 emulation is there really isn't even a working one for the PC yet. Now why can older systems be emulated? Because compared to a PS2, their hardware is very simple to manage with an emulator. The XBox can manage the code fast enough to keep the game going at a steady clip. I know this isn't an in depth explanation, but I thought I would put it in laymen's terms. Basically...here is the gist of what I just said...PS2, Dreamcast, and especially Gamecube emulation is not going to happen on the XBox. It just can't handle it. Granted one could be made, but it would be so slow and ugly it wouldn't even be worth the effort. Anyways...case closed...after reading this there should be no reason for anyone to ask questions about why PS2 emulation can't be done.

12-08-2003, 4:42 AM	#8
jtothees Registered User My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Boise, Idaho Age: 23 Posts: 828	damnit!

12-10-2003, 6:13 AM	#10
mantis23 Mega Moderator My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Carrollton, Texas Age: 31 Posts: 21,598	Ving, if you're ever in town, I'll show you my xbox, and how it works.

12-10-2003, 10:00 AM	#11
JD22CL Rollin to GT in da CL My Garage Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: ATL, DIRTY SOUTH Age: 23 Posts: 199	My box has 30 top name xbox games on it, gotta love modding that thing