non-navi to navi install complete by me (long read and lots of pics)

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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:53 AM
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non-navi to navi install complete by me (long read and lots of pics)

For those who said it couldn’t be done its finally been done

Well as you have read from the title I have successfully completed my install of the factory navigation into a non-navi tsx. I took me about 4 days due to the fact that I wasn’t sure off all the parts I needed so by the time I got all the pieces in and installed it took me about 4 days. Not to mention that no one else had done this before so I had to experiment.

This job is definitely not for beginners. Some knowledge of cars and wiring is needed to complete this long task. This also cannot be done with out both the service manual and the electrical manual from Helm’s. These two books were and still are a life saver.

When I originally started this venture I wanted to wait and find the Acura wire harness that goes behind the dash (navi edition) and the one for the passenger side floor harness that connects all the way in the back to the navigation (also navi edition). As I looked for pricing dealers I was going to spend about $1,500 just in harnesses. The dismantling of the dash which would have been necessary to install factory harnesses would have been a nightmare. So I decided to look for junkyards that might have them. Basically this was a waste of time because only about 5 junkyards had tsx’s. Then they either had cut the wire harnesses or they just didn’t want to part the car (meaning they would have to sell me the dash and half the car for me to get the wire harnesses). So I decided to try and make my own wire harness.

I ordered the electrical manual from helms and it all went down hill from there. After reviewing the electrical manual for several days/hours I figured out that all the wires for the navigation were a separate harness from the all the other car harnesses but they were ran in the same loop all the way to conceal all the wires. After this brilliant finding I decided to start dissection the car to see what was behind all the plastic and to confirm what wires came with the non-navi edition. The wiring was a bitch to say the least. Building shields for wires is a pain in tha ass. Anyways I had to go wire by wire dissecting the car so that I can run one wire at a time so that I wouldn’t get lost. There is a shit load of wires that need to be added to make this thing work and u must find all of them lol.

Parts needed are: (part number) please confirm part number b4 ordering

For parts list:
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catlistallcomp.jsp?inputstate=3&catcgry1=TSX&catcg ry2=2004&catcgry3=4DR+TSX+NAVIGATION&catcgry4=LM&c atcgry5=INSTRUMENT+PANEL+GARNISH+(DRIVER+SIDE)&Lis tAll=All


Navigation (39540-SEC-A01)
H-VAC display unit (tv)
Navigation Dvd (39010-SDA-A41)
Sub clock display unit (39710-SEC-A51)
Sub wire, cable reel harness (behind airbag) (77901-SDA-A40)
GPS antenna (39835-SEC-A01)
Homelink buttons (navi edition includes a mic) (34404-SDA-A21)
Switch assy., Navigation Guide (35890-SEC-A01)
Case (3A) for switch assy (35891-SEC-A01)
Plate switch set (78517-SDN-A81)
2x Screw-washer (4X12) (93893-04012-07)
2x Screw-washer (4X12 ) (93893-04012-17)
Size 22 wire (all wires are this size)
Soldering iron
Electrical tape
Screwdriver
Flat head
Torx T-30 (airbag removal)

I took as many pictures as I could of relevant things. Hardly took pictures of the actual wiring due to the fact that it is just a bunch of wires stuck together. There is a lot of dismantling of the car but don’t be afraid that is what the service manual is for.

This to dismantle:

Back seat
Gauge cluster
Left and right kick panels
Passenger side floor interior trim
Back seat shelf (speaker area)
Both left and right rear pillar air bag trim covers (to be able to pull out the shelf)
Center dash
Interior trim under and around steering wheel
Driver side airbag


You must also have the serial numbers for the tv and the navigation because you need to call acura and get navigation and radio unlock codes.



The taking out of the H-VAC to see what wires were behind there



Some of the materials



Some of the wiring



More wiring notice the shielding beginning at the end



Shielding (what a pain in the ass)



Finished info screen



Sub cable reel (wire for mic and for voice activation button)



Close up of wire for voice activation button



Finished voice activation button



Side view of activation button



Place where voice activation button goes. One must cut along the line and remove the plastic so that button fits in there



Where voice button should go



Voice activation button



Difference in sub cable reel harness (right on has extra plug for voice activation button)



Close up of cable reel harness



Steering wheel view with out airbag



Center dash cabling (notice the black and the white towards the bottom. Those two plugs need to be added to be hooked up to the navi)



Old school radio lol



New sub-clock display unit



Cd player view



Menu view



Map view



Intro warning



Intro screen



Sub-display clock unit



GPS antenna



GPS antenna



Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal



Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal



GPS antenna and rear shelf



Wiring behind navigation



Navigation view after wire hiding



Navigation view b4 wire hiding



Rear shelf



Back seat with corner removed (where wire run through)



Wire running through passenger side floor



Wire running through passenger side floor



Wire running through passenger side floor


WEll thats all guys. Its all done and i love it. I would be willing to make more harnesses for who ever wants them but they gonna cost some cash. It takes forever and it is very tidious. Hope you guys enjoy.

Next step is navi/dvd/tv conversion (in a non-navi tsx lol)

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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Wow. Well done. You now deserve all of our respect
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Congrats on a job well done
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Well, get ready for some questions and rep points.

My question is how much in total did it cost you?
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:01 PM
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Looking good. A few CL's have accomplished this as well. Excellent work.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:06 PM
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nice job!

I wonder if those will be covered under warantee
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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i havent sat down to calculate cost yet

ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed

and no it prob wont be covered under warantee

but i dont care lol
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Wow



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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:18 PM
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All I can say is "wow"...
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by flopez82
i havent sat down to calculate cost yet

ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed

and no it prob wont be covered under warantee

but i dont care lol
Well, welcome to the club....Are you going to do this for a living now and convert non-navs into navs? Can you convert my 04 nav to an 05 nav??
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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i wont be doing this for a living (a side job maybee lol)

as far as 04-05 lets hold off on it and see how the 04-04 conversion goes lol

but i would be willing to give it a try
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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I believed! Congrats flopez!
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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....i dont know what to say. theres a tear in my left eye...
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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wow. nominee for mod of the year. we should have a poll on that maybe half-way or at the end of the year.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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All in all, absolutely stunning. Enjoy it!
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 01:54 PM
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Huge rep coming for this one!
It's going in the FAQ for sure.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Dude, next time just buy the car with NAVI...
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 02:37 PM
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Holy crap! I don't even know what to say.... You're a more patient man than I am, that's for sure. Good job.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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how much would it cost just for the bracket that has the vents and stuff w/o the screen etc?

also if that is just one big piece, where would you suggest getting the piece for a resonable price?
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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naskhan u got pm

and thanks to everyone for the props

the mod is well worth it

i cant keep my eyes off the screen

lol
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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You are the F*ck*n man!!!

Great job!!
Rep points for you for sure!!!

Very impressive!!

Now all you need to do is put on the Navi to TV/DVD conversion!!
I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that!
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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Unbelievable...

You'll surely be inducted to Acurazine HoF..
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by flopez82
naskhan u got pm

and thanks to everyone for the props

the mod is well worth it

i cant keep my eyes off the screen

lol
Im sure you have been awake for 4 days.....Get some sleep....
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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Thats awesome. Great job!

How long did it take you from start to finish and how much? I think this proves why you should get navi to begin with
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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I must admit I was a doubter. Not only did you finish it but in four days!! You have my vote for the mod of the year.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 01:18 AM
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Two things...

A> Congrats thats a hell of a job

B> You made me realize that I would NEVER want to try that myself.. EVER
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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Wow.

I want navi in my TSX but that's all a little overwhelming to me. Maybe someday..
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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nice job man.. i remember when you were on A-TSX.com asking questions.. cant believe you did it. not only did you do but you did it in 4 days.... i would never think about this mod could have been done... but congrats man.. next time save your self the trouble and get a navi...
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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Wow....this should give me insperation to turn my non XM '04 into an XM '05


That's awesome dude!
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 11:54 AM
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Sir I applaud your efforts. Let this be a lesson for all of us - If you put your mind to something, you can accomplish great things.



That is all.......
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Old Jan 12, 2005 | 12:39 PM
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Excellent job with the mod!
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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man lopez you're gonna going down in history as "the man who did it"
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.

Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.

But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DCyamaha
Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.

Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.

But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.
If you drive a lot in uncommon areas, it is well worth the price. Never say never, my friend.
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Old Feb 27, 2005 | 11:19 AM
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Mad Props!!!! Wow!!!
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Echo from me.

Any chance the dealer can do this? I imagine they'll do it for at least $3,000 with all the work that goes into it.

Damn labor!!! ha ha
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