non-navi to navi install complete by me (long read and lots of pics)

flopez82 · 01-06-2005, 11:53 AM

For those who said it couldn’t be done its finally been done

Well as you have read from the title I have successfully completed my install of the factory navigation into a non-navi tsx. I took me about 4 days due to the fact that I wasn’t sure off all the parts I needed so by the time I got all the pieces in and installed it took me about 4 days. Not to mention that no one else had done this before so I had to experiment.

This job is definitely not for beginners. Some knowledge of cars and wiring is needed to complete this long task. This also cannot be done with out both the service manual and the electrical manual from Helm’s. These two books were and still are a life saver.

When I originally started this venture I wanted to wait and find the Acura wire harness that goes behind the dash (navi edition) and the one for the passenger side floor harness that connects all the way in the back to the navigation (also navi edition). As I looked for pricing dealers I was going to spend about $1,500 just in harnesses. The dismantling of the dash which would have been necessary to install factory harnesses would have been a nightmare. So I decided to look for junkyards that might have them. Basically this was a waste of time because only about 5 junkyards had tsx’s. Then they either had cut the wire harnesses or they just didn’t want to part the car (meaning they would have to sell me the dash and half the car for me to get the wire harnesses). So I decided to try and make my own wire harness.

I ordered the electrical manual from helms and it all went down hill from there. After reviewing the electrical manual for several days/hours I figured out that all the wires for the navigation were a separate harness from the all the other car harnesses but they were ran in the same loop all the way to conceal all the wires. After this brilliant finding I decided to start dissection the car to see what was behind all the plastic and to confirm what wires came with the non-navi edition. The wiring was a bitch to say the least. Building shields for wires is a pain in tha ass. Anyways I had to go wire by wire dissecting the car so that I can run one wire at a time so that I wouldn’t get lost. There is a shit load of wires that need to be added to make this thing work and u must find all of them lol.

Parts needed are: (part number) please confirm part number b4 ordering

For parts list:
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catlistallcomp.jsp?inputstate=3&catcgry1=TSX&catcg ry2=2004&catcgry3=4DR+TSX+NAVIGATION&catcgry4=LM&c atcgry5=INSTRUMENT+PANEL+GARNISH+(DRIVER+SIDE)&Lis tAll=All

Navigation (39540-SEC-A01)
H-VAC display unit (tv)
Navigation Dvd (39010-SDA-A41)
Sub clock display unit (39710-SEC-A51)
Sub wire, cable reel harness (behind airbag) (77901-SDA-A40)
GPS antenna (39835-SEC-A01)
Homelink buttons (navi edition includes a mic) (34404-SDA-A21)
Switch assy., Navigation Guide (35890-SEC-A01)
Case (3A) for switch assy (35891-SEC-A01)
Plate switch set (78517-SDN-A81)
2x Screw-washer (4X12) (93893-04012-07)
2x Screw-washer (4X12 ) (93893-04012-17)
Size 22 wire (all wires are this size)
Soldering iron
Electrical tape
Screwdriver
Flat head
Torx T-30 (airbag removal)

I took as many pictures as I could of relevant things. Hardly took pictures of the actual wiring due to the fact that it is just a bunch of wires stuck together. There is a lot of dismantling of the car but don’t be afraid that is what the service manual is for.

This to dismantle:

Back seat
Gauge cluster
Left and right kick panels
Passenger side floor interior trim
Back seat shelf (speaker area)
Both left and right rear pillar air bag trim covers (to be able to pull out the shelf)
Center dash
Interior trim under and around steering wheel
Driver side airbag

You must also have the serial numbers for the tv and the navigation because you need to call acura and get navigation and radio unlock codes.

The taking out of the H-VAC to see what wires were behind there

Some of the materials

Some of the wiring

More wiring notice the shielding beginning at the end

Shielding (what a pain in the ass)

Finished info screen

Sub cable reel (wire for mic and for voice activation button)

Close up of wire for voice activation button

Finished voice activation button

Side view of activation button

Place where voice activation button goes. One must cut along the line and remove the plastic so that button fits in there

Where voice button should go

Voice activation button

Difference in sub cable reel harness (right on has extra plug for voice activation button)

Close up of cable reel harness

Steering wheel view with out airbag

Center dash cabling (notice the black and the white towards the bottom. Those two plugs need to be added to be hooked up to the navi)

Old school radio lol

New sub-clock display unit

Cd player view

Menu view

Map view

Intro warning

Intro screen

Sub-display clock unit

GPS antenna

Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal

GPS antenna and rear shelf

Wiring behind navigation

Navigation view after wire hiding

Navigation view b4 wire hiding

Rear shelf

Back seat with corner removed (where wire run through)

Wire running through passenger side floor

Wire running through passenger side floor

WEll thats all guys. Its all done and i love it. I would be willing to make more harnesses for who ever wants them but they gonna cost some cash. It takes forever and it is very tidious. Hope you guys enjoy.

Next step is navi/dvd/tv conversion (in a non-navi tsx lol)

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daniel1113 · 01-06-2005, 11:57 AM

Wow. Well done. You now deserve all of our respect

Viking · 01-06-2005, 11:58 AM

Congrats on a job well done

Whiskers · 01-06-2005, 12:01 PM

<-------Speechless........

Well, get ready for some questions and rep points.

My question is how much in total did it cost you?

mrsteve · 01-06-2005, 12:01 PM

Looking good. A few CL's have accomplished this as well. Excellent work.

n3ok318 · 01-06-2005, 12:06 PM

nice job!

I wonder if those will be covered under warantee

flopez82 · 01-06-2005, 12:08 PM

i havent sat down to calculate cost yet

ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed

and no it prob wont be covered under warantee

but i dont care lol

jcg878 · 01-06-2005, 12:14 PM

Wow

Wow

edit: I "installed" a lip spoiler on my TSX once

**CGTSX2004** · 01-06-2005, 12:18 PM

All I can say is "wow"...

Whiskers · 01-06-2005, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopez82

i havent sat down to calculate cost yet

ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed

and no it prob wont be covered under warantee

but i dont care lol

Well, welcome to the club....Are you going to do this for a living now and convert non-navs into navs? Can you convert my 04 nav to an 05 nav??

flopez82 · 01-06-2005, 12:22 PM

i wont be doing this for a living (a side job maybee lol)

as far as 04-05 lets hold off on it and see how the 04-04 conversion goes lol

but i would be willing to give it a try

teg_to_bike · 01-06-2005, 12:22 PM

I believed! Congrats flopez!

jiggaman · 01-06-2005, 12:29 PM

unbelievable

acuratsx03 · 01-06-2005, 1:41 PM

....i dont know what to say. theres a tear in my left eye...

sleeper · 01-06-2005, 1:49 PM

wow. nominee for mod of the year.

we should have a poll on that maybe half-way or at the end of the year.

brerpie · 01-06-2005, 1:51 PM

Three words: You are brave

All in all, absolutely stunning. Enjoy it!

Dan Martin · 01-06-2005, 1:54 PM

Huge rep coming for this one!

It's going in the FAQ for sure.

slo007 · 01-06-2005, 2:25 PM

Dude, next time just buy the car with NAVI...

ClutchPerformer · 01-06-2005, 2:37 PM

Holy crap! I don't even know what to say.... You're a more patient man than I am, that's for sure. Good job.

palidanx · 01-06-2005, 3:12 PM

Uber props

omelette · 01-06-2005, 3:12 PM

wooow

Naskhan · 01-06-2005, 3:41 PM

how much would it cost just for the bracket that has the vents and stuff w/o the screen etc?

also if that is just one big piece, where would you suggest getting the piece for a resonable price?

flopez82 · 01-06-2005, 3:48 PM

naskhan u got pm

and thanks to everyone for the props

the mod is well worth it

i cant keep my eyes off the screen

lol

Tsx536 · 01-06-2005, 5:01 PM

You are the F*ck*n man!!!

Great job!!
Rep points for you for sure!!!

Very impressive!!

Now all you need to do is put on the Navi to TV/DVD conversion!!
I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that!

acuratsai · 01-06-2005, 5:19 PM

sipark · 01-06-2005, 5:20 PM

Unbelievable...

You'll surely be inducted to Acurazine HoF..

Whiskers · 01-06-2005, 5:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flopez82

naskhan u got pm

and thanks to everyone for the props

the mod is well worth it

i cant keep my eyes off the screen

lol

Im sure you have been awake for 4 days.....Get some sleep....

joerockt · 01-06-2005, 5:40 PM

Thats awesome. Great job!

How long did it take you from start to finish and how much? I think this proves why you should get navi to begin with

batman · 01-06-2005, 11:25 PM

I must admit I was a doubter. Not only did you finish it but in four days!! You have my vote for the mod of the year.

gfxdave99 · 01-07-2005, 1:18 AM

Two things...

A> Congrats thats a hell of a job

B> You made me realize that I would NEVER want to try that myself.. EVER

TSXsurf · 01-11-2005, 12:52 AM

Wow.

I want navi in my TSX but that's all a little overwhelming to me. Maybe someday..

I10O0I1 · 01-11-2005, 4:35 PM

nice job man.. i remember when you were on A-TSX.com asking questions.. cant believe you did it. not only did you do but you did it in 4 days.... i would never think about this mod could have been done... but congrats man.. next time save your self the trouble and get a navi...

MrChad · 01-11-2005, 6:20 PM

Wow....this should give me insperation to turn my non XM '04 into an XM '05

That's awesome dude!

Outlook · 01-12-2005, 11:54 AM

Sir I applaud your efforts. Let this be a lesson for all of us - If you put your mind to something, you can accomplish great things.

That is all.......

**JTso** · 01-12-2005, 12:39 PM

Excellent job with the mod!

matelot · 01-17-2005, 2:31 PM

man lopez you're gonna going down in history as "the man who did it"

DCyamaha · 01-17-2005, 3:44 PM

Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.

Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.

But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.

daniel1113 · 01-17-2005, 3:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCyamaha

Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.

Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.

But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.

If you drive a lot in uncommon areas, it is well worth the price. Never say never, my friend.

Stokeless_TSX · 02-27-2005, 11:19 AM

Mad Props!!!! Wow!!!

TSXMike05 · 03-22-2005, 10:43 AM

Echo from me.

Any chance the dealer can do this? I imagine they'll do it for at least $3,000 with all the work that goes into it.

Damn labor!!! ha ha

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01-11-2005, 4:35 PM	#32
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01-11-2005, 6:20 PM	#33
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01-06-2005, 11:57 AM	#2
daniel1113 Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Williamsburg, VA Age: 25 Posts: 491	Wow. Well done. You now deserve all of our respect

01-06-2005, 11:58 AM	#3
Viking Quattro in..... Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 3,404	Congrats on a job well done

01-06-2005, 12:01 PM	#4
Whiskers Eek!! A Jefford!! 2008 Infiniti G35 Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Starbucks Age: 39 Posts: 56,276	<-------Speechless........ Well, get ready for some questions and rep points. My question is how much in total did it cost you?

01-06-2005, 12:01 PM	#5
mrsteve defeatthedebt.com Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Fairfax, Virginia Age: 27 Posts: 34,182	Looking good. A few CL's have accomplished this as well. Excellent work.

01-06-2005, 12:06 PM	#6
n3ok318 Registered Member Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Kirkland, WA Age: 24 Posts: 855	nice job! I wonder if those will be covered under warantee

01-06-2005, 12:08 PM	#7
flopez82 Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: miami fl Age: 28 Posts: 319	i havent sat down to calculate cost yet ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed and no it prob wont be covered under warantee but i dont care lol

01-06-2005, 12:14 PM	#8
jcg878 Obnoxious Philadelphian Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: South Jersey Age: 33 Posts: 5,531	Wow Wow edit: I "installed" a lip spoiler on my TSX once

01-06-2005, 12:18 PM	#9
CGTSX2004 Moderator 1999 Mazda Miata My Garage Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 23,450	All I can say is "wow"...

01-06-2005, 12:22 PM	#11
flopez82 Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: miami fl Age: 28 Posts: 319	i wont be doing this for a living (a side job maybee lol) as far as 04-05 lets hold off on it and see how the 04-04 conversion goes lol but i would be willing to give it a try

01-06-2005, 12:22 PM	#12
teg_to_bike I'm back, biatch. Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sunnyvale, CA Age: 29 Posts: 5,758	I believed! Congrats flopez!

01-06-2005, 12:29 PM	#13
jiggaman I spend 2 much time here Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Age: 30 Posts: 5,753	unbelievable

01-06-2005, 1:41 PM	#14
acuratsx03 Future Seminole Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Plantation, Florida Age: 23 Posts: 881	....i dont know what to say. theres a tear in my left eye...

01-06-2005, 1:49 PM	#15
sleeper Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: nerdlingerton Age: 30 Posts: 2,236	wow. nominee for mod of the year. we should have a poll on that maybe half-way or at the end of the year.

01-06-2005, 1:51 PM	#16
brerpie CeD Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Central Florida Age: 26 Posts: 359	Three words: You are brave All in all, absolutely stunning. Enjoy it!

01-06-2005, 1:54 PM	#17
Dan Martin Photography Nerd Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto Age: 30 Posts: 21,519	Huge rep coming for this one! It's going in the FAQ for sure.

01-06-2005, 2:25 PM	#18
slo007 Master in Science Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Milan, Italy Age: 30 Posts: 3,944	Dude, next time just buy the car with NAVI...

01-06-2005, 2:37 PM	#19
ClutchPerformer Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: At the angry black man convention Age: 29 Posts: 5,582	Holy crap! I don't even know what to say.... You're a more patient man than I am, that's for sure. Good job.

01-06-2005, 3:12 PM	#20
palidanx honk not beep Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Westminster, CA Age: 28 Posts: 338	Uber props

01-06-2005, 3:12 PM	#21
omelette Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: OH Age: 28 Posts: 55	wooow

01-06-2005, 3:41 PM	#22
Naskhan Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Silver Spring MD Age: 30 Posts: 124	how much would it cost just for the bracket that has the vents and stuff w/o the screen etc? also if that is just one big piece, where would you suggest getting the piece for a resonable price?

01-06-2005, 3:48 PM	#23
flopez82 Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: miami fl Age: 28 Posts: 319	naskhan u got pm and thanks to everyone for the props the mod is well worth it i cant keep my eyes off the screen lol

01-06-2005, 5:01 PM	#24
Tsx536 Rep'n Taxbrain.com Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: N. Cali-forn-i-a Age: 30 Posts: 7,179	You are the Fckn man!!! Great job!! Rep points for you for sure!!! Very impressive!! Now all you need to do is put on the Navi to TV/DVD conversion!! I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that!

01-06-2005, 5:20 PM	#26
sipark Socialists Not in Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: D.C. area Age: 32 Posts: 3,429	Unbelievable... You'll surely be inducted to Acurazine HoF..

01-06-2005, 5:40 PM	#28
joerockt Just dial 1911 Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 35 Posts: 12,136	Thats awesome. Great job! How long did it take you from start to finish and how much? I think this proves why you should get navi to begin with

01-06-2005, 11:25 PM	#29
batman Aint Doing Sht 1992 Honda Civic My Garage Trader Rating:* (0) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: DC Age: 30 Posts: 870	I must admit I was a doubter. Not only did you finish it but in four days!! You have my vote for the mod of the year.

01-07-2005, 1:18 AM	#30
gfxdave99 6MT Snob Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Chicagoland Age: 35 Posts: 2,287	Two things... A> Congrats thats a hell of a job B> You made me realize that I would NEVER want to try that myself.. EVER

01-11-2005, 12:52 AM	#31
TSXsurf NBP/EBONY/6MT Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: TSX Age: 29 Posts: 408	Wow. I want navi in my TSX but that's all a little overwhelming to me. Maybe someday..

01-12-2005, 11:54 AM	#34
Outlook Registered Member Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Orlando, FLUSA Age: 39 Posts: 331	Sir I applaud your efforts. Let this be a lesson for all of us - If you put your mind to something, you can accomplish great things. That is all.......

01-12-2005, 12:39 PM	#35
JTso Moderator Trader Rating: (1) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: WA Age: 48 Posts: 7,368	Excellent job with the mod!

01-17-2005, 2:31 PM	#36
matelot Banned Trader Rating: (0) Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bushwhacked Land Age: 36 Posts: 3,878	man lopez you're gonna going down in history as "the man who did it"