non-navi to navi install complete by me (long read and lots of pics)
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non-navi to navi install complete by me (long read and lots of pics)
For those who said it couldn’t be done its finally been done
Well as you have read from the title I have successfully completed my install of the factory navigation into a non-navi tsx. I took me about 4 days due to the fact that I wasn’t sure off all the parts I needed so by the time I got all the pieces in and installed it took me about 4 days. Not to mention that no one else had done this before so I had to experiment.
This job is definitely not for beginners. Some knowledge of cars and wiring is needed to complete this long task. This also cannot be done with out both the service manual and the electrical manual from Helm’s. These two books were and still are a life saver.
When I originally started this venture I wanted to wait and find the Acura wire harness that goes behind the dash (navi edition) and the one for the passenger side floor harness that connects all the way in the back to the navigation (also navi edition). As I looked for pricing dealers I was going to spend about $1,500 just in harnesses. The dismantling of the dash which would have been necessary to install factory harnesses would have been a nightmare. So I decided to look for junkyards that might have them. Basically this was a waste of time because only about 5 junkyards had tsx’s. Then they either had cut the wire harnesses or they just didn’t want to part the car (meaning they would have to sell me the dash and half the car for me to get the wire harnesses). So I decided to try and make my own wire harness.
I ordered the electrical manual from helms and it all went down hill from there. After reviewing the electrical manual for several days/hours I figured out that all the wires for the navigation were a separate harness from the all the other car harnesses but they were ran in the same loop all the way to conceal all the wires. After this brilliant finding I decided to start dissection the car to see what was behind all the plastic and to confirm what wires came with the non-navi edition. The wiring was a bitch to say the least. Building shields for wires is a pain in tha ass. Anyways I had to go wire by wire dissecting the car so that I can run one wire at a time so that I wouldn’t get lost. There is a shit load of wires that need to be added to make this thing work and u must find all of them lol.
Parts needed are: (part number) please confirm part number b4 ordering
For parts list:
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catlistallcomp.jsp?inputstate=3&catcgry1=TSX&catcg ry2=2004&catcgry3=4DR+TSX+NAVIGATION&catcgry4=LM&c atcgry5=INSTRUMENT+PANEL+GARNISH+(DRIVER+SIDE)&Lis tAll=All
Navigation (39540-SEC-A01)
H-VAC display unit (tv)
Navigation Dvd (39010-SDA-A41)
Sub clock display unit (39710-SEC-A51)
Sub wire, cable reel harness (behind airbag) (77901-SDA-A40)
GPS antenna (39835-SEC-A01)
Homelink buttons (navi edition includes a mic) (34404-SDA-A21)
Switch assy., Navigation Guide (35890-SEC-A01)
Case (3A) for switch assy (35891-SEC-A01)
Plate switch set (78517-SDN-A81)
2x Screw-washer (4X12) (93893-04012-07)
2x Screw-washer (4X12 ) (93893-04012-17)
Size 22 wire (all wires are this size)
Soldering iron
Electrical tape
Screwdriver
Flat head
Torx T-30 (airbag removal)
I took as many pictures as I could of relevant things. Hardly took pictures of the actual wiring due to the fact that it is just a bunch of wires stuck together. There is a lot of dismantling of the car but don’t be afraid that is what the service manual is for.
This to dismantle:
Back seat
Gauge cluster
Left and right kick panels
Passenger side floor interior trim
Back seat shelf (speaker area)
Both left and right rear pillar air bag trim covers (to be able to pull out the shelf)
Center dash
Interior trim under and around steering wheel
Driver side airbag
You must also have the serial numbers for the tv and the navigation because you need to call acura and get navigation and radio unlock codes.
The taking out of the H-VAC to see what wires were behind there
Some of the materials
Some of the wiring
More wiring notice the shielding beginning at the end
Shielding (what a pain in the ass)
Finished info screen
Sub cable reel (wire for mic and for voice activation button)
Close up of wire for voice activation button
Finished voice activation button
Side view of activation button
Place where voice activation button goes. One must cut along the line and remove the plastic so that button fits in there
Where voice button should go
Voice activation button
Difference in sub cable reel harness (right on has extra plug for voice activation button)
Close up of cable reel harness
Steering wheel view with out airbag
Center dash cabling (notice the black and the white towards the bottom. Those two plugs need to be added to be hooked up to the navi)
Old school radio lol
New sub-clock display unit
Cd player view
Menu view
Map view
Intro warning
Intro screen
Sub-display clock unit
GPS antenna
GPS antenna
Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal
Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal
GPS antenna and rear shelf
Wiring behind navigation
Navigation view after wire hiding
Navigation view b4 wire hiding
Rear shelf
Back seat with corner removed (where wire run through)
Wire running through passenger side floor
Wire running through passenger side floor
Wire running through passenger side floor
WEll thats all guys. Its all done and i love it. I would be willing to make more harnesses for who ever wants them but they gonna cost some cash. It takes forever and it is very tidious. Hope you guys enjoy.
Next step is navi/dvd/tv conversion (in a non-navi tsx lol)
Well as you have read from the title I have successfully completed my install of the factory navigation into a non-navi tsx. I took me about 4 days due to the fact that I wasn’t sure off all the parts I needed so by the time I got all the pieces in and installed it took me about 4 days. Not to mention that no one else had done this before so I had to experiment.
This job is definitely not for beginners. Some knowledge of cars and wiring is needed to complete this long task. This also cannot be done with out both the service manual and the electrical manual from Helm’s. These two books were and still are a life saver.
When I originally started this venture I wanted to wait and find the Acura wire harness that goes behind the dash (navi edition) and the one for the passenger side floor harness that connects all the way in the back to the navigation (also navi edition). As I looked for pricing dealers I was going to spend about $1,500 just in harnesses. The dismantling of the dash which would have been necessary to install factory harnesses would have been a nightmare. So I decided to look for junkyards that might have them. Basically this was a waste of time because only about 5 junkyards had tsx’s. Then they either had cut the wire harnesses or they just didn’t want to part the car (meaning they would have to sell me the dash and half the car for me to get the wire harnesses). So I decided to try and make my own wire harness.
I ordered the electrical manual from helms and it all went down hill from there. After reviewing the electrical manual for several days/hours I figured out that all the wires for the navigation were a separate harness from the all the other car harnesses but they were ran in the same loop all the way to conceal all the wires. After this brilliant finding I decided to start dissection the car to see what was behind all the plastic and to confirm what wires came with the non-navi edition. The wiring was a bitch to say the least. Building shields for wires is a pain in tha ass. Anyways I had to go wire by wire dissecting the car so that I can run one wire at a time so that I wouldn’t get lost. There is a shit load of wires that need to be added to make this thing work and u must find all of them lol.
Parts needed are: (part number) please confirm part number b4 ordering
For parts list:
http://www.acuraparts247.com/sunnyside/jsp/catlistallcomp.jsp?inputstate=3&catcgry1=TSX&catcg ry2=2004&catcgry3=4DR+TSX+NAVIGATION&catcgry4=LM&c atcgry5=INSTRUMENT+PANEL+GARNISH+(DRIVER+SIDE)&Lis tAll=All
Navigation (39540-SEC-A01)
H-VAC display unit (tv)
Navigation Dvd (39010-SDA-A41)
Sub clock display unit (39710-SEC-A51)
Sub wire, cable reel harness (behind airbag) (77901-SDA-A40)
GPS antenna (39835-SEC-A01)
Homelink buttons (navi edition includes a mic) (34404-SDA-A21)
Switch assy., Navigation Guide (35890-SEC-A01)
Case (3A) for switch assy (35891-SEC-A01)
Plate switch set (78517-SDN-A81)
2x Screw-washer (4X12) (93893-04012-07)
2x Screw-washer (4X12 ) (93893-04012-17)
Size 22 wire (all wires are this size)
Soldering iron
Electrical tape
Screwdriver
Flat head
Torx T-30 (airbag removal)
I took as many pictures as I could of relevant things. Hardly took pictures of the actual wiring due to the fact that it is just a bunch of wires stuck together. There is a lot of dismantling of the car but don’t be afraid that is what the service manual is for.
This to dismantle:
Back seat
Gauge cluster
Left and right kick panels
Passenger side floor interior trim
Back seat shelf (speaker area)
Both left and right rear pillar air bag trim covers (to be able to pull out the shelf)
Center dash
Interior trim under and around steering wheel
Driver side airbag
You must also have the serial numbers for the tv and the navigation because you need to call acura and get navigation and radio unlock codes.
The taking out of the H-VAC to see what wires were behind there
Some of the materials
Some of the wiring
More wiring notice the shielding beginning at the end
Shielding (what a pain in the ass)
Finished info screen
Sub cable reel (wire for mic and for voice activation button)
Close up of wire for voice activation button
Finished voice activation button
Side view of activation button
Place where voice activation button goes. One must cut along the line and remove the plastic so that button fits in there
Where voice button should go
Voice activation button
Difference in sub cable reel harness (right on has extra plug for voice activation button)
Close up of cable reel harness
Steering wheel view with out airbag
Center dash cabling (notice the black and the white towards the bottom. Those two plugs need to be added to be hooked up to the navi)
Old school radio lol
New sub-clock display unit
Cd player view
Menu view
Map view
Intro warning
Intro screen
Sub-display clock unit
GPS antenna
GPS antenna
Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal
Rear shelf and rear pillar airbag trim removal
GPS antenna and rear shelf
Wiring behind navigation
Navigation view after wire hiding
Navigation view b4 wire hiding
Rear shelf
Back seat with corner removed (where wire run through)
Wire running through passenger side floor
Wire running through passenger side floor
Wire running through passenger side floor
WEll thats all guys. Its all done and i love it. I would be willing to make more harnesses for who ever wants them but they gonna cost some cash. It takes forever and it is very tidious. Hope you guys enjoy.
Next step is navi/dvd/tv conversion (in a non-navi tsx lol)
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LECKEY73 (07-22-2011)
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<-------Speechless........
Well, get ready for some questions and rep points.
My question is how much in total did it cost you?
Well, get ready for some questions and rep points.
My question is how much in total did it cost you?
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i havent sat down to calculate cost yet
ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed
and no it prob wont be covered under warantee
but i dont care lol
ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed
and no it prob wont be covered under warantee
but i dont care lol
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Originally Posted by flopez82
i havent sat down to calculate cost yet
ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed
and no it prob wont be covered under warantee
but i dont care lol
ill prob do it tonight with soem time but i know it was nearly as much as getting an aftermarket unit installed
and no it prob wont be covered under warantee
but i dont care lol
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i wont be doing this for a living (a side job maybee lol)
as far as 04-05 lets hold off on it and see how the 04-04 conversion goes lol
but i would be willing to give it a try
as far as 04-05 lets hold off on it and see how the 04-04 conversion goes lol
but i would be willing to give it a try
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how much would it cost just for the bracket that has the vents and stuff w/o the screen etc?
also if that is just one big piece, where would you suggest getting the piece for a resonable price?
also if that is just one big piece, where would you suggest getting the piece for a resonable price?
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You are the F*ck*n man!!!
Great job!!
Rep points for you for sure!!!
Very impressive!!
Now all you need to do is put on the Navi to TV/DVD conversion!!
I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that!
Great job!!
Rep points for you for sure!!!
Very impressive!!
Now all you need to do is put on the Navi to TV/DVD conversion!!
I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that!
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Originally Posted by flopez82
naskhan u got pm
and thanks to everyone for the props
the mod is well worth it
i cant keep my eyes off the screen
lol
and thanks to everyone for the props
the mod is well worth it
i cant keep my eyes off the screen
lol
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nice job man.. i remember when you were on A-TSX.com asking questions.. cant believe you did it. not only did you do but you did it in 4 days.... i would never think about this mod could have been done... but congrats man.. next time save your self the trouble and get a navi...
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Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.
Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.
But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.
Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.
But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.
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Originally Posted by DCyamaha
Yeah, I think everyone is interested to know how much it cost you in TOTAL to put that in.
Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.
But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.
Now I know why the Navi's cost about $2000 more.
But, IMO, a navi is NEVER worth $2000. I'll get one when they're half that price.