Flush, poke, extreme poke. It's gone too far.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Flush, poke, extreme poke. It's gone too far.

16x9 +13 Front
1610 +13 Rear




16x8 +0 Front
16x10 +6 Rear


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I doubt that many of you in Car Talk follow this stuff. That's why I wanted to see what you thought. In a world where originality rules, we've run out of ideas. 10" wide wheels on the back of a Civic. It makes my head asplode.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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I think it's fking stupid.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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Looks :ghey: to me.

If installing tires that don't fit a wheel properly on a car where the wheels don't fit properly is the new "in" thing, I'm definitely not going to jump on that bandwagon.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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I see all too much of this. The "kids" love it though.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:51 PM
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Flush>poke
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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what is straight dope status? how is it acquired?
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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So let me get this straight, some of this generation enjoys wearing pants at their knees, some guys like wearing chicks jeans, some like putting things that obviously don't fit properly on their cars. I'm noticing a pattern here...
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:57 PM
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Hella functional > Hella Flush/Poke
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EuRTSX
Hella functional > Hella Flush/Poke
Hella Werd!
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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Must be totally awesome having 4 tires worth more than your actual car...and the fact your going to have to replace them rather quick.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:00 PM
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I like when they're flush or a little bit of poke. We have a few really good examples here on Azine. The extreme camber and stretch looks awful. If you browse H-T, VWvortex or NWP, there's so many people that love it.

*EDIT* I had to post that EF picture. That was first time I've seen what one of these guys look like.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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I don't mind the stretched tires, but that negative camber is ridiculous.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Sarlacc
Must be totally awesome having 4 tires worth more than your actual car...and the fact your going to have to replace them rather quick.
If that's what it takes to make it to Straight Dope Status, then I guess that's what it takes.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Hella Werd!
Hella +1!

I can appreciate all the work that goes into it but I'm not a fan of that super stretched sidewall. A poster on AZ one said it looked like the tire was shitting out the wheel.... true. Another thing is rusty hood look it looked okay on that E28 but it looks ridiculous on VWs and other hatches.

I'd be happy with flush. None of that Mexiflush/poke stuff. A little camber is alright too, but why the hell would you want to ride on your sidewall?

Their rear wheels are wider than MY rear wheels, and their cars probably make less than a third of my car does stock, at the wheels!
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
Hella +1!

I can appreciate all the work that goes into it but I'm not a fan of that super stretched sidewall. A poster on AZ one said it looked like the tire was shitting out the wheel.... true. Another thing is rusty hood look it looked okay on that E28 but it looks ridiculous on VWs and other hatches.

I'd be happy with flush. None of that Mexiflush/poke stuff. A little camber is alright too, but why the hell would you want to ride on your sidewall?

Their rear wheels are wider than MY rear wheels, and their cars probably make less than a third of my car does stock, at the wheels!
I'd love to see how these cars handle on LA rain-soaked freeways.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Ooh, here we go. Poke, stretch, rusted hood and bike rack. Straight dope status. Welcome to 2010.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:14 PM
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You need to merge this thread with the stretched tires hatting thread.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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I think running aggressive offset is badass if you don't overdue it..it's not for everybody..everyone has diffrent taste..I like to push my car to the max.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazin Si
Ooh, here we go. Poke, stretch, rusted hood and bike rack. Straight dope status. Welcome to 2010.

Aside from the rusted hood.... I kinda like it dunno how I feel about roof racks. Hey.... every generation has its version of curb feelers and Daytons.

This VW on the other hand, looks like its doing its best impression of goatse, at all four corners



Then there's this MR2. C'mon, if you're going to look ridiculous, at least try harder.

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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazin Si
Ooh, here we go. Poke, stretch, rusted hood and bike rack. Straight dope status. Welcome to 2010.
What's wrong with the bike rack?

If it's never used and just for show, then yea, it's :ghey: but they can serve a functional purpose.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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IMO this fitment/stance is perfect. It probably still handles great too, assuming the coilovers they're using can handle that much of a drop properly. Hella concave =



The lip is too much and not a fan of the eyelids though. Looks like a WRX spoiler too.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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WAIT.... I changed my mind. This is perfection. How can I lop off the front end of my car, ditch the engine and suspension and just roll around like this bad boy? HERRA FRUSH, YO!



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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
Aside from the rusted hood.... I kinda like it dunno how I feel about roof racks. Hey.... every generation has its version of curb feelers and Daytons.

This VW on the other hand, looks like its doing its best impression of goatse, at all four corners

[IMG]http://paulatslidegood.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/262o4u1.jpg[IMG]

Then there's this MR2. C'mon, if you're going to look ridiculous, at least try harder.

[IMG]http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Rod09/Gallery/hella/mexiflush.jpg[IMG]
Those remind me of the dayton "skateboard" look I would see on Oldsmobile 88's from the mid-late 90's.

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You need to merge this thread with the stretched tires hatting thread.
That's fine. I didn't see anything when I searched.

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What's wrong with the bike rack?

If it's never used and just for show, then yea, it's :ghey: but they can serve a functional purpose.
No, there's nothing wrong if they have a bike. There's a ton of VW/Honda guys using a bike rack as an appearance mod.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
IMO this fitment/stance is perfect. It probably still handles great too, assuming the coilovers they're using can handle that much of a drop properly. Hella concave =



The lip is too much and not a fan of the eyelids though. Looks like a WRX spoiler too.
That stance looks perfect and with the right coilovers, it probably handles like a dream on the track.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Blazin Si
That's fine. I didn't see anything when I searched.

https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-tires-wheels-suspension-97/what-stretching-tires-trend-718800/
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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I guess this is coming back. I remember seeing cars like this in the Mid 90's in Michigan, except smaller wheels, and they must have used spacers or something to push the wheels. Looked ridiculous then, look ridiculous now.
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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I like the whole flush thing but I could never imagine having my car sit like that. It's not practical for daily driving.

The poke thing I don't really understand. It makes the cars look like Hot Wheels
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Old Apr 9, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
Hella +1!

I can appreciate all the work that goes into it but I'm not a fan of that super stretched sidewall. A poster on AZ one said it looked like the tire was shitting out the wheel.... true. Another thing is rusty hood look it looked okay on that E28 but it looks ridiculous on VWs and other hatches.

I'd be happy with flush. None of that Mexiflush/poke stuff. A little camber is alright too, but why the hell would you want to ride on your sidewall?

Their rear wheels are wider than MY rear wheels, and their cars probably make less than a third of my car does stock, at the wheels!
This.




I would love for my E28 to have a stance like that...some day.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 12:07 AM
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lol wheels worth more than their car.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 12:54 AM
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Rusty hoods, bike racks for show, and wheels angled to ride on sidewalls? Stupid, just flat out stupid.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 01:30 AM
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I don't mind the rusty hood look so much if the paint was already in bad like that. Some people like that look because it attracts less attention to any mods under the hood. But it looks retarded if the rest of the car is in perfect condition and just the hood is rusty.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by madcaps


wtf? Is that a clear coat over the rust?
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Blazin Si
I like when they're flush or a little bit of poke. We have a few really good examples here on Azine. The extreme camber and stretch looks awful. If you browse H-T, VWvortex or NWP, there's so many people that love it.

*EDIT* I had to post that EF picture. That was first time I've seen what one of these guys look like.
heh, that's true but they do it a little better imo.

I hate the camber, the offset and those guys pants.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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meh. gotta love teh puerto rican cars, crisp clean shiney rims on a rusted or primed paint car/ Some things will never change.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mourning Would
IMO this fitment/stance is perfect. It probably still handles great too, assuming the coilovers they're using can handle that much of a drop properly. Hella concave =



The lip is too much and not a fan of the eyelids though. Looks like a WRX spoiler too.
that looks really nice! besides the front lip, i like everything.
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 07:20 AM
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hate to break it to you guys, but that JDM stuff you guys all love so much is also one of the biggest contributors to the hellaflush scene. VIP/yakuza cruiser style started in the 80's and 90's and theyve been doing the low and neg camber thing for a while. and.... the bimmer/vw scene have been doing it for even longer. it just hasnt blown up until now. whether or not its functional doesnt matter because we all know it isnt. its for the style and flavor that the individual is trying to attain. yeah sure some people go overboard with it, but.... whats it to you? if thats the look they want to go with then let it be. there will always be people just putting parts on just to put parts on. there will always be people following the bandwagon to do the next "in" thing. but the industry has been like that since the start. you cant deny, though, that the look definitely works for some cars and it's so much better than the autozone chrome fad. in their defense, they could ask all of you guys that buy performance parts and dont race or take it to the track. whats the point?? at least theyre driving around and using the parts they buy. just sayin... and it also gives a whole new look to some cars that you wouldnt think twice about so...
i'm not for the everything in the scene, but i do support it as a style and i leave it at that.... it is what it is.

/thread. let me leave you with some cars to drool at.

vip style





euro style





Import




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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 07:54 AM
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I see all too much of this. The "kids" love it though.
This kid doesn't like it...that is just dumb...
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Old Apr 10, 2010 | 08:47 AM
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That kid in the pic looks like he just got kicked in the balls right before the shot...

Oh yeah and the tire-shitting-the-rim look is hella ghey...
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