Nissan: GT-R News
Originally Posted by swift22
I think its safe to say that this is probably the only MEET that can have all stock cars...and still be awesome.
True the GTR is much nicer looking than any Ford Gt, Lambo, Ferrari, Aston, etc....
Innovation Is Alive and Well
The innovation that aftermarket companies around the world display is legendary, and the in-house innovative power displayed by some TAS exhibitors showed that the bar has been raised higher this year, particularly when it comes to products that have become highly computerized. Aftermarket companies in Japan had heard dire predictions from inside Nissan that the GT-R would be impossible to modify, so they were prepared for the worst.
A Japanese journalist reportedly had the following experience when test driving a pre-release model of the GT-R. As he approached the main entry gate of Suzuka International Circuit, the car’s GPS-equipped computer warned him in a pleasant voice that once he entered the circuit, the car’s warranty would be voided.
The navigation screen then gave him an "Accept" screen, requiring him to push "Accept" to get rid of the voice. After a couple more times, the voice issued a final warning that the vehicle was recording his driving habits and any damage done to the vehicle at the circuit would not be covered under the new-car warranty at a Nissan dealership.
This story seemed to confirm all the fears that the Japanese aftermarket had about the GT-R being a very difficult vehicle to modify. Once it was in the hands of the 10 or so companies that showed their vehicles at the Tokyo Auto Salon, however, the car proved to be less sensitive to simple modifications than recent Toyota and Lexus releases, for example.
For a start, the vehicle will let you add aftermarket wheels and tires without any problems. Some recent Toyota and Lexus models will not even let you do tire rotation without the entire dash turning red as a "danger warning" when you turn on the ignition. It reportedly costs about $200 USD and a trip to the nearest Toyota dealer to get the dash back to normal again.
Luckily, it seems that the new GT-R is a little easier to customize. Most of the GT-Rs at TAS had aftermarket wheels and tires, but not much else. It will be a while before the degree of accessibility of the vehicle is known. It has only just come out, so even the big players in the market like HKS, BLITZ, Endless and Trust have not had time to develop products for the car.
One indication of how aftermarket innovation has surprised even the automakers was a NISMO (Nissan Motorsports) staffer who commented that he was already amazed at some of the work done by the aftermarket companies on the just-released GT-R, in particular the work performed by HKS engineers on the display GT-R in the HKS booth. Next year the same gentleman will probably see 10 other companies he will be surprised at
The innovation that aftermarket companies around the world display is legendary, and the in-house innovative power displayed by some TAS exhibitors showed that the bar has been raised higher this year, particularly when it comes to products that have become highly computerized. Aftermarket companies in Japan had heard dire predictions from inside Nissan that the GT-R would be impossible to modify, so they were prepared for the worst.
A Japanese journalist reportedly had the following experience when test driving a pre-release model of the GT-R. As he approached the main entry gate of Suzuka International Circuit, the car’s GPS-equipped computer warned him in a pleasant voice that once he entered the circuit, the car’s warranty would be voided.
The navigation screen then gave him an "Accept" screen, requiring him to push "Accept" to get rid of the voice. After a couple more times, the voice issued a final warning that the vehicle was recording his driving habits and any damage done to the vehicle at the circuit would not be covered under the new-car warranty at a Nissan dealership.
This story seemed to confirm all the fears that the Japanese aftermarket had about the GT-R being a very difficult vehicle to modify. Once it was in the hands of the 10 or so companies that showed their vehicles at the Tokyo Auto Salon, however, the car proved to be less sensitive to simple modifications than recent Toyota and Lexus releases, for example.
For a start, the vehicle will let you add aftermarket wheels and tires without any problems. Some recent Toyota and Lexus models will not even let you do tire rotation without the entire dash turning red as a "danger warning" when you turn on the ignition. It reportedly costs about $200 USD and a trip to the nearest Toyota dealer to get the dash back to normal again.
Luckily, it seems that the new GT-R is a little easier to customize. Most of the GT-Rs at TAS had aftermarket wheels and tires, but not much else. It will be a while before the degree of accessibility of the vehicle is known. It has only just come out, so even the big players in the market like HKS, BLITZ, Endless and Trust have not had time to develop products for the car.
One indication of how aftermarket innovation has surprised even the automakers was a NISMO (Nissan Motorsports) staffer who commented that he was already amazed at some of the work done by the aftermarket companies on the just-released GT-R, in particular the work performed by HKS engineers on the display GT-R in the HKS booth. Next year the same gentleman will probably see 10 other companies he will be surprised at
Originally Posted by Crazy Sellout
True the GTR is much nicer looking than any Ford Gt, Lambo, Ferrari, Aston, etc....
I was making a point that you took out of context. I am sure an all acura TL meet with stock cars would be AWESOME.
And i said nothing about nicer looking....(DBS has my vote), and we already know what the GTR's performance is stock.
A Japanese journalist reportedly had the following experience when test driving a pre-release model of the GT-R. As he approached the main entry gate of Suzuka International Circuit, the car’s GPS-equipped computer warned him in a pleasant voice that once he entered the circuit, the car’s warranty would be voided.
How the hell are you going to design a car specifically for the track and then try and say that if you actually take your new track toy to the track, they won't cover anything that breaks?!? Thats just idiotic.
From Leftlanenews...
Although the Nissan GT-R will sticker for about $69,000 when it goes on sale in the U.S. later this year, prospective buyers will be hard pressed to find any Nissan dealers to offer the supercar at that price. The combination of the GT-R's limited availability and Nissan's lack of dealer pricing control could see some of the turbocharged coupes going for as high as $129,000 — nearly double the car's MSRP.
Exhaustnote.com called on 15 Nissan dealers through the United States and found that the GT-R will command at least $20,000 over its window sticker. Several dealers even said they were going to handle GT-R sales like an auction, pitting prospective buyers against one another.
One dealership in Carson, California said they would markup the GT-R by about $50,000 — joking the markup would be about the same as a new Nissan 350Z and Sentra.
The highest markup found was $60,000, bringing the GT-R's out-the-door price to a staggering $129,000.
The huge markups are due to extremely limited availability of Nissan's latest supercar — only 1,500 GT-Rs will be available in the U.S. this year. Most dealerships will only get 2 or 3 cars, but most have waiting lists at least 40 people deep.
While Nissan has counseled its dealers on markups — one of the GT-R's greatest assets was supposed to be amazing performance at a value price — the Japanese automaker has no control over how much dealers will actually charge.
Exhaustnote.com called on 15 Nissan dealers through the United States and found that the GT-R will command at least $20,000 over its window sticker. Several dealers even said they were going to handle GT-R sales like an auction, pitting prospective buyers against one another.
One dealership in Carson, California said they would markup the GT-R by about $50,000 — joking the markup would be about the same as a new Nissan 350Z and Sentra.
The highest markup found was $60,000, bringing the GT-R's out-the-door price to a staggering $129,000.
The huge markups are due to extremely limited availability of Nissan's latest supercar — only 1,500 GT-Rs will be available in the U.S. this year. Most dealerships will only get 2 or 3 cars, but most have waiting lists at least 40 people deep.
While Nissan has counseled its dealers on markups — one of the GT-R's greatest assets was supposed to be amazing performance at a value price — the Japanese automaker has no control over how much dealers will actually charge.
I don't think Nissan cares much about the mark up.
They should know the rule of supply and demand and they should've been expecting this from lomg time ago.
If they really wanted the price to stay around MSRP, they would've tried to meet the supply with demand.
They should know the rule of supply and demand and they should've been expecting this from lomg time ago.
If they really wanted the price to stay around MSRP, they would've tried to meet the supply with demand.
Originally Posted by srika
that's a lot better
Did you actually think people would be able to walk into a dealership and pick one up for a couple thousands over the sticker?
now since with markups the price of this car matches a 911 Turbo... what would you guys choose?
Honestly, if I am going to spend that much, I will go with the Porsche... I am no where near the quality driver it would take to see any significant performance difference between the 2 cars...
Honestly, if I am going to spend that much, I will go with the Porsche... I am no where near the quality driver it would take to see any significant performance difference between the 2 cars...
you are forgetting that some of these "customers" are purchasing them for business use..so they dont mind the mark up.
IE: MINES, AMUSE, APS..etc etc
However normally a company has seperate facilities for purchase of cars for business use or "fleet" use.
IE: MINES, AMUSE, APS..etc etc
However normally a company has seperate facilities for purchase of cars for business use or "fleet" use.
Originally Posted by swift22
you are forgetting that some of these "customers" are purchasing them for business use..so they dont mind the mark up.
IE: MINES, AMUSE, APS..etc etc
However normally a company has seperate facilities for purchase of cars for business use or "fleet" use.
IE: MINES, AMUSE, APS..etc etc
However normally a company has seperate facilities for purchase of cars for business use or "fleet" use.
those guys are probably buying direct from Nissan and they are also buying them in Japan where the volume of the demand might be less...
I am not sure why Nissan doesn't do something really simple. Make their dealers sell the car within 15% of MSRP. If they don't, simply don't allow them any more allotment. You can also freeze financing as well on GT-Rs sold for a huge markup.
hence my 3 paragraph if you want to call it that. If we are talking about the US, yes you would assume they would go direct however maybe its faster in which case "time equals money" and they would rather walk in and walk out that day no matter how much over sticker they pay. Otherwise..yeah i would buy a Aston Martin.
Wow... $129k? $129k for a Nissan? Albeit, a GTR, but still...
That's ridiculous... somewhat expected, but still ridiculous. I was expecting like $85k.
Time to walk on by this one folks, and head over to Porsche where atleast you can get "status" with the car for $129k.
That's ridiculous... somewhat expected, but still ridiculous. I was expecting like $85k.

Time to walk on by this one folks, and head over to Porsche where atleast you can get "status" with the car for $129k.
The same thing happened when the Type-R integra was introduced in '97. I remember when I got my 97 integra there was a Type-R sitting in the showroom for $10K over sticker.
Bottomline is nissan doesn't care; otherwise they would do something about it. I mean, either way, they win, the GT-R gets them recognition and their prestige goes up because they are harder to come by.
Surprisingly, all of these "big" manufacturers have something to learn from Saturn.
Bottomline is nissan doesn't care; otherwise they would do something about it. I mean, either way, they win, the GT-R gets them recognition and their prestige goes up because they are harder to come by.
Surprisingly, all of these "big" manufacturers have something to learn from Saturn.
Originally Posted by Sly Raskal
Bottomline is nissan doesn't care; otherwise they would do something about it. I mean, either way, they win, the GT-R gets them recognition and their prestige goes up because they are harder to come by.
Originally Posted by Maximized
Or they will have GT-R's that rot on the showroom floor, similar to the 80K Shelby GT500 Vert at my local Ford dealer.

Then again, how many people do you think would buy an overpriced rustang compared to a highly refined japanese sportscar that has some great heritage?


















































